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WfE Book Club: Chaps. 7-9, Penises, dead horses and an elephant

SPOILER ALERT!!! If you are not reading or planning to read Water for Elephantsbook or script, then do not read this post or the comments. We are reading Water for Elephants together and I want everyone to feel free to discuss openly. You should join us if you haven’t already!

Start at the beginning!!

Chapters 1-3, where the waterworks begin!

Chapters 4-6, lots of new characters!

Seems like August is trying to redeem himself after the incident with the cats by inviting Jacob to his room for a fancy dinner with the wife, Marlena. Everything is going fantastic and it seems Jacob starts to change his mind about August until that one fleeting moment before he passes out. The moment Jacob says he appears to be a different man. He passes out and Marlena explains that he has his little moments.

Poor Jacob. He passes out after getting drunk at the dinner, pulls a walk of shame (minus the sex) back to his cart and then walks in on Kinko, um, having his way with himself. Hell, I think I blushed when I read it, so I cannot even imagine what Jacob is thinking.

After running out of the room, Jacob meets up with Otis to feed the cats. Unfortunately, their is no refrigeration on the train so the meat has taken a turn south, maggots and all. It’s clear there is no way they can feed it to the animals. Then he goes to check on Silver Star, who is with Marlena. It’s clear the horse is going to have to be put down.  He gets a gun from August, and regardless of the possibility of being “redlighted,” puts the horse down.

While Jacob sits and waits for the train to leave without him, August finds him to tell him he’s fine and won’t be redlighted. And then there is this sickening moment where you realize how Silver Star’s body was disposed of. Ewww.

Flash forward to old man Jacob waking up in restraints with Rosemary, the good nurse. She shows Jacob that she does have some respect for him and his wishes, and you just can’t help but smile for a moment, cause I know she is. And I had to laugh at the story about bathing, being undressed and how not all things have died at 90.

And of course, the story about his wife, and how the children shuffled him off to the “assisted living center” as soon as the opportunity arose after she passed. Once again, my gut is just ripped and I’m hoping I never have to make a decision like that. Or that a decision is made like that for me. Ugh. Getting old sucks.

But the family is coming today, and it’s circus day. So Jacob is happy and really doesn’t care too much about all those things for the moment.

Jacob gets his breakfast in his room, and is enjoying the reappearance of cream, until he starts looking into the mirror. This is really the part where I hate that the book is in 1st person, cause I so teared up. You just think of all the elderly people in your family and wonder if they saw the same thing, someone staring back that was not them.

And now we jump back to young Jacob. Do these flashback sometimes make you crazy? They do me. I can’t help it. I hate having to wait a chapter to know what happens next in the world of young/old Jacob. The train pulls up to the defunk circus, and Uncle Al starts his work, meeting with remaining circus peeps who want a job and turning most of them down.

Watching the whole process of taking over another circus is interesting. This is also when we learn that August really has no heart for the animals. While Jacob is fussing and worrying about them, August lets the ones from the other circus starve to help the business discussions go. And then gets pissed at Marlena when she gives her food to some of the non-picked up employees still hanging around. It’s just obvious the man has no humanity. None. Zero. Zilch.

And finally now, we see what Uncle Al has really acquired from the circus, which is an elephant.  And considering we all know the name of this book, you know it’s pivotal.


WfE Book Club: Chaps 4-6, Lots of New Characters!

SPOILER ALERT!!! If you are not reading or planning to read Water for Elephantsbook or script, then do not read this post or the comments. We are reading Water for Elephants together and I want everyone to feel free to discuss openly. You should join us if you haven’t already!

Start at the beginning!!

Chapters 1-3, where the waterworks begin!

We pick right back up outside of all Barbara’s tent, but this time she is “entertaining” for $2 a person. Ew! Poor Camel,drinking his jake, finally tries to figure out Jacob’s story. When Jacob says he has nothing to go back home to, Camel leaves it at that. Pretty sure he just gets that whatever it is, it must be bad. So he begins the work of getting Jacob on the show.

We finally meet Uncle Al, the leader of the show. It’s clear Camel is not in a high enough position to garner much attention from Uncle Al, so his first attempt is fruitless. So Camel goes and sees Earl. I picture Earl as a scary looking man, but clearly has a good heart. When he grabs up Camel and gets him up on the train, you know right away he is one of the good guys.

After an uncomfortable night on the train that shows us there is no love for the Polish (which Jacob is), Earl gets him up and takes him to Uncle Al. Literally throwing him in to see him, but it apparently is all part of the plan, which Jacob is not aware of. I have to say, Jacob is quick on his feet the entire conversation, except for the fact that even he can’t work around the fact that Uncle Al is off his nut.

Then we really meet August. August who comes to the rescue and reveals that Jacob went to vet school, earning Jacob a shot at a job on the show. Seemingly a nice guy, right?

Then we are introduced to Kinko. This is like the chapter for introducing characters, right? Clearly he is not excited about having Jacob in his space, but mainly cause he is a performer and snooty, which you just had to know they would be.

And now we are back to old man Jacob, who is being woken up by the nurse Rosemary. I do hope if I have to ever be in a home like that, I have a Rosemary with me. He’s watching the circus that’s across the way, and it seems like even though he is trying not to show his excitement, you can tell he is. And how jealous he is of the other people that get to go first. So jealous that it makes him grouchy. And the non-Rosemary nurse isn’t helping matters either.

Then comes the incident in the dining room, and Jacob gets so upset at the lack of real food that he throws his tray. So they decide he is depressed and give him new meds, and I just feel wretched about it cause I can’t really blame him for the outburst. It’s so sad, and continues my theory that I really never want to put anyone in my family in a nursing home.

Back to younger Jacob, and after a horrible night of sleep, it’s time to meet Marlena and take care of her horse. And let it be known, I can actually picture Reese in this role, even though so many are having trouble with it. I get it. I think she’ll be fine.

After a look at Silver Star, Jacob knows it’s bad. Really bad. But then crazy Uncle Al basically says Jacob has a job, as long as he can fix the horse.

We also learn exactly what Uncle Al is all about. A vulture of a ringmaster who chases down busted shows and buys up what he can, hires performers who have no where to go. That’s how he’s pretty much built his show. So as soon as word of a show collapsing happens, Uncle Al packs up everything and goes.

August continues taking care of Jacob, getting him water and a change of clothes. And personally, I cannot wait to see Kinko yelling at Jacob about touching his stuff. Hearing someone of a small stature call Rob a pisshead is just going to make my day!

We kinda get a brief glimpse of the first moment of crazy from August. Jacob and him go to feed the cats meat (which is already horribly bad) and August sets him up to get bit by a lion. Luckily the lion had no teeth, but August finds it hilarious. Almost sickeningly so. And that’s when the warnings come from others too that Jacob needs to be very careful around August.

There is also the first moment of something between Jacob and Marlena. When she looks at his arm where the lion bit him, and you can already see there is something starting there. Like they get each other.

So what did you all think? Anything you can’t wait to see on film?


WfE Book Club: Chaps 1-3, Let the Water Works Begin!

SPOILER ALERT!!! If you are not reading or planning to read Water for Elephants book or script, then do not read this post or the comments. We are reading Water for Elephants together and I want everyone to feel free to discuss openly. You should join us if you haven’t already! Go and catch up!!

Oh, was that prologue intriguing or what?!? Anytime someone gets a stake in the head in the first 4 pages, I mean, you

know you are in for something good. The first time I read that, I seriously gasped out loud. Then I thought, yep, this book is going to be good!

Then we go into the first chapter with the older Jacob, and a look into the world of assisted living. Ick! I feel bad that any of my relatives have had to go through this, and I swear the descriptions may make me seriously reconsider placing any other family members in such care. I swear, with the descriptions, I too could smell the Depends. I kind of can’t wait to see who they’ll cast as the older Jacob. I always picture James Garner. He’s like my go to vision of an older man. Plus, he just seems like he could carry that bad ass attitude that older Jacob kind of has. I can totally see him arguing with another old man about the water.

Okay, chapter 2, before we even get into the part where I start crying like a baby, can we talk about all the ways Twilight relates back. First, yes, Rob will be playing Jacob. And although these characters go away pretty quick, Edward the room mate and Catherine Hale, the girl he’s interested in. C’mon. It’s too much! You have to smile a little bit at that, especially before the hammer drops. Continue reading


So, You All Want to Do a Water for Elephants Book Club?

I’e had a lot of people who did the Bel Ami book club ask me if we were going to do the same thing for Water for Elephants. Here is why I was hesitating… I have already read it. I couldn’t wait to see what it was all about, so I took a weekend and read it. Oops.

But, since so many of you seem to be trying to get me on board with this, I’ll do it. It’s a good book, so I am totally willing to reread it, maybe with a little more Rob in mind. And there is some good stuff to talk about in the book, so it should be a little bit more fun then Bel Ami. I mean, when peeps have sex, they actually say “they have sex.” No guessing, just envisioning! ;)

I think the 3 chapter thing worked well, but of course this book is not divisable by 3 (damn them!), so I’ll have kind of make a schedule like this is some kind of lame high school literature course. Boo. I’ll just let you know each week what chapters are up for discussion the following week.

Next week we’ll talk the prologue, then chapters 1-3. Actually, we won’t talk the prologue too much, just cause I don’t want to accidentally give anything away. That would suck.

Your homework for this week is to: A) Get a copy of Water for Elephants; and 2) Get to reading! Next Monday, we’ll start talking about the circus, Rob, animals and how we all are going to know have to route for Team Jacob.

P.S. Sorry for the short post. The holiday weekend has wore me out.

P.P.S. Um, are you on Goodreads? It’s social media for book worms, and I love it! We should be friends and you can see everything I’m reading and what I love/like/hate!


Bel Ami Wrap up! Ch. 16-18… Did Duroy just win?

SPOILER ALERT!!! If you are not reading or planning to read Bel Ami book or script, then do not read this post or the comments. We are reading Bel Ami together and I want everyone to feel free to discuss openly. You should join us if you haven’t already!

Starting at the beginning?!

Already read Chaps 1-3?!

Still stuck on Chaps 4-6?

Maneuvering your way through Chaps 7-9?

Player hating back in Chaps 10 – 12?

Still stunned by his exploits in Chaps 13-15?

P.S. I am NOT reading the script, therefore I discuss whether or not I think certain scenes should be in the film. PLEASE do not comment or tweet me and tell me whether or not a scene is in the script. I don’t want to know!

So, we’ve finished Bel Ami, although I have a sneaky suspicion some of you read ahead. ::glares at some of you::

Duroy wins? Huh?

I did not. I really did just finish this book last night and when I saw I was coming up the end I was ready to see how this thing wrapped up. And maybe I missed something, but it really didn’t. Did Duroy just win?

Let’s review…

Duroy has been courting Susan. This is nothing new. We all knew it. I’ve been trying to figure out he was going to make it work since he’s been wanting to marry her, but how could he? Duroy was married, right? Back then, divorces just aren’t that easy, unless you can prove adultery…

And so, that’s what he did. Not only catching Madeline in the act, but with the Minister. Definite two-fer for him. He can divorce the wife without disgrace and also overthrow the minister and begin his own political rise. Nice for him, right?

Then he gets Susan and convinces her to not only marry him (which isn’t hard because he’s been practically courting her for months), but to run away with him should her parents not agree. He knew they wouldn’t, especially Madame Walter since he had strung her along. By running away, he sets up Walter to agree, even though he doesn’t want to, just to save face.

I LOVE that Clotilde confronted him and told him off to his face, and she pretty much couldn’t believe what he was. I did NOT like that he pretty much beat her for that. Kind of a scary moment in the book and we didn’t see any sort of punishment for it for Duroy. No, next thing you know he’s editor-in-chief for the paper.

And then we are at the wedding, which is basically another event which set Duroy to feel on top of the world. And while we think that maybe, just maybe he may be changing just because he has everything he wanted, he greets Madame de Marelle in the reception line at the wedding. And there, he pretty much lets as all know, that it is not over with her, which she is obviously cool with despite him hitting her. WTF?

And with that, the book ends. Duroy never changes. He, essentially, wins.

And I am confuzzled… I’m used to characters who do bad things not winning. Karma always catches up with them, but not this time.

What did you all think? Were you as confused be the ending as me?


Duroy is Always on the Search for More! Chaps 13-15

SPOILER ALERT!!! If you are not reading or planning to read Bel Ami book or script, then do not read this post or the comments. We are reading Bel Ami together and I want everyone to feel free to discuss openly. You should join us if you haven’t already!

Starting at the beginning?!

Already read Chaps 1-3?!

Still stuck on Chaps 4-6?

Maneuvering your way through Chaps 7-9?

Player hating back in Chaps 10 – 12?

P.S. I am NOT reading the script, therefore I discuss whether or not I think certain scenes should be in the film. PLEASE do not comment or tweet me and tell me whether or not a scene is in the script. I don’t want to know!

Oh you. Such the tease!

Wow, did anyone else feel both sorry for Madame Walter, but then think she was a bit of a loon at the same time? Imean, she calls him to her house after he was already trying to push her off (I’m guessing he found no benefit to being with her before this moment) and lets him in on this big deal to make some big bucks. I mean, then she offers to BUY him into the deal, and he still can’t make nice with her. As soon as I start thinking, “Damn, poor woman was just led on by him. It’s not her fault” they talk about how she ties her hair around the buttons in the coat so when he leaves it will pull the hair out and he will take a piece of her with him. Whoa, that women has lost her shit over Duroy! Course, if Robroy is what she is looking at, I can’t blame her. #justkidding #notreally

Then Comte de Vaudrec passes away, and since I KNOW for sure now that him and Madeline were doing it (as well as Duroy), well, that tore her up pretty good. And being the good husband he is, Duroy asks all about where Vaudrec’s money is going. And was it any shocker that all the money was left to Madeline. I mean, even Duroy shouldn’t have been that surprised. She can deny it all she wants, but we all know she as so in with Vaudrec.

I love how Duroy pretended like he didn’t want to accept the money. Anyone surprised that he found a way to get a hold of the money, but still keep a good public face. Not me. I mean, there was no way he could turn his back on being a millionaire. No way!

But man, how the happiness fades so fast when you are so set on having more. The phrase “keeping up with the Joneses” comes to mind. Duroy has so much, but constantly wants more. And now, you can see where him and Madeline are starting to split, and he is working over Susan Walter, trying to get a piece of that even bigger pie that Walter got from the stocks deal.

The whole game is becoming weird to watch, and honestly, I’m kind of ready for it to wrap up and see the conclusion of Duroy’s game. I will say, while I think the book is dragging a bit at this point, I think a well translated script from the book will really move it along and be far more interesting.  Seeing the relationships in play will most likely be much easier then reading them. Sometimes, I feel like my head is spinning trying to keep up.

What do you all think? Are you still enjoying it, or are you all feeling ready for it to wrap?


Duroy Really is Quite the Player! — Chaps 10-12

SPOILER ALERT!!! If you are not reading or planning to read Bel Ami book or script, then do not read this post or the comments. We are reading Bel Ami together and I want everyone to feel free to discuss openly. You should join us if you haven’t already!

Starting at the beginning?!

Already read Chaps 1-3?!

Still stuck on Chaps 4-6?

Maneuvering your way through Chaps 7-9?

P.S. I am NOT reading the script, therefore I discuss whether or not I think certain scenes should be in the film. PLEASE do not comment or tweet me and tell me whether or not a scene is in the script. I don’t want to know!

Ahhh… married life. Now, if you were thinking this would settle down ol’ Duroy, you were so wrong! Course, settled

Oh, George! You are truly a player!

down Duroy is not the plot of the story, and honestly, I am not thinking that settled down Madeline AKA Madame Forestier is not part of the plot either. Cause I’m getting the feeling that her and Comte de Vaudrec are a little more then good friends, if you know what I’m saying. I’m guessing his character is going to play more into the plot later, cause at this point in time I have no idea what the point of all that was.

I love how at this point, it is quite obvious that Madeline is the key to breaking the mold, and was clearly writing even Forestier’s articles. She is a devious woman, and I wonder what she was doing to get

all of the information to bring to Duroy. I am still convinced she is the female version of him and I would almost love a short story to see what is going on through her mind. Madeline is clearly in the driver’s seat in this relationship, and I love that all the other men in the office start picking up that she was making him just like Forestier, and even start calling him by the name. I laughed pretty hard at this cause at this point, Duroy is not really a very likable person so I kind of feel like he gets his in the end. It’s a this point that I can most clearly see Rob in the role, and the anger starting to rise.

The carriage ride was interesting, and you could begin to see the divide between the two even though in all actuality, they had not even been married that long. This divide is probably what makes it easier for Duroy to begin his next conquest… Madame Walter.

More of the book club, after the jump! Continue reading


A Confusing Gunfight Followed by a Marriage? Bel Ami Ch. 7 – 9

SPOILER ALERT!!! If you are not reading or planning to read Bel Ami book or script, then do not read this post or the comments. We are reading Bel Ami together and I want everyone to feel free to discuss openly. You should join us if you haven’t already!

Starting at the beginning?!

Already read Chaps 1-3?!

Still stuck on Chaps 4-6?

P.S. I am NOT reading the script, therefore I discuss whether or not I think certain scenes should be in the film. PLEASE do not comment or tweet me and tell me whether or not a scene is in the script. I don’t want to know!

Okay, last week I went all crazy in depth, but probably not as much this week. Two reasons… (1) I’ve had to get up at 5 a.m. every day this week so I is tired and (2) Yeah, I got kind of lost on parts. Well, not parts, just all of chapter 7.

What I gathered was that Duroy got in an argument, and then a gun fight, with another reporter over whether an old lady got arrested after arguing with a butcher over meat trimmings. Is that right? I guess I didn’t understand where that built into the plot. Maybe one of you did, but I didn’t. If, in the movie, I have to choose leaving out that scene and seeing more Rob sexing, yeah, I think we can do the additional sexing. The only thing that would be cute is seeing Rob all petrified and scared. Don’t ask me why I think that’d be cute. I don’t know, but what I picture in my head is adorable. But yeah, that whole chapter seemed unnecessary to the plot. ::shrugs shoulders::

Chapter 8 gets us moving, as Madame Forestier calls on Duroy to come out and be with her as a friend while her husband dies. Not too surprising, we all knew it was coming. I think its funny he was slightly uncomfortable, cause he had already pretty much declared his feelings for the wife (sort of), or maybe cause it’s scary as hell to watch anyone die because it makes you feel very mortal. The more I think about it, the more I think that was the reason he was uncomfortable. Maybe the point of chapter 7 was to make him feel immortal after winning the gun fight. Maybe while writing the blog I figured out the whole point to chapter 7. ::patting myself on my own back::

So, Forestier seems to take FOREVER to die (can so shorten that for the movie), but eventually kicks the bucket. And then he moves in for the kill with the widow. I do love that after he states his intentions, she leaves him hanging. Good woman, leave him hanging.

Duroy then had to start putting off Madame de Maralle, cause he can’t be having his mistress when he’s married to her friend. And this chapter we begin to see that Madame Forestier is kind of perfect for Duroy. Conniving, planning and very much an equal to him, having him change his name, changing his stature by what she calls “a little method” that can get them whatever they want, Madame Forestier is legit.

Duroy and Madeline aka Madame Forestier go get married in secret, do the honeymoon thing, then go visit the parentals of Duroy. Madeline is definitely hooty-tooty and doesn’t do well in the country, but the whole point was to make it seem like they stayed at some estate for when they announced the marriage, versus getting married in a court house and staying with what are essentially peasants. See, Madeline has a plan for everything.

What did you guys think? I feel like we are kind of in a transitional period, so I’m hoping to see some more plot very, very soon!


Maybe I Don’t Like Ol’ Duroy Anymore…

Rob looking HOT as George!

SPOILER ALERT!!! If you are not reading or planning to read Bel Ami book or script, then do not read this post or the comments. We are reading Bel Ami together and I want everyone to feel free to discuss openly. You should join us if you haven’t already!

Starting at the beginning?!

Already read Chaps 1-3?!

On to talk about chapters 4 – 6…

Man, someone decided to get all cocky pants. “Oh look at me. I wrote an article. I’m super important.” ICK!

First off, Mr. Duroy, you didn’t write shit. Secondly, really? Really? You run around all day gloating and totes forgot that you had to write another one, cause shocker, that’s how journalism works. Man, he kinda comes off douchey, huh?

I fail to feel sorry for him anymore at this point, because its clear he thought his friend was going to do everything for him. And then once Forestier kind of sets him in place, Saint-Potin just makes everything Forestier said seem unnecessary. He gives Duroy some insight to the politics of the world, which paints kind of an interesting picture. And when he talks about Foriester’s wife and the good fortune he had to marry him, it once again confirms my thoughts that he does much more for Foriester then he lets on. And then the whole idea of drawing a salary before he actually does any work.. wow. Saint-Potin knew how to work the system and was setting up Duroy to go down a really bad path.

Then when Duroy fails to get his next article written and shows up to see Madame Forestier again for help, he gets kicked to the curb. At first, I was like, “Hell yeah. That’s what you get.” But then I think the main reason he got the boot was because the wife was writing for the husband and Forestier probably did not want him to see that.  Poor Duroy, he really did need that help too, cause his articles were no good. I think it’s funny he got knocked down a few rungs on that.

I do like how the character does seem to get serious and do some work, but then he hits that plateau a lot of journalists hit, which is I’m sure what begins the whole scenario for the book. Yeah me. I figured out the plot of the book. Woot. He isn’t climbing the social ladder fast enough, so he realizes that maybe visiting with the ladies will work out for him.

So he starts hanging out with Madame de Maralle, who he met at the first party. And then not only he is good company, but he is all adorable around the little girl. And if Duroy is looking like Rob, I know the de Maralle’s ovaries probably exploded. I mean, watching the two play tag? Wow, please PLEASE let me see that on the big screen! I’ll call shenanigans on the writers. #trust

The dinner was a little weird, and I’m pretty sure Duroy did not leave the customary 15% when he paid the bill. Oh, and the next day, when Duroy says “I will worship you.” That will be a panty poofing moment for sure.

More of my review after the jump… Continue reading


Bel Ami Book Club — Chap. 1-3… Um, when does the sexing start again?

SPOILER ALERT!!! If you are not reading or planning to read Bel Ami book or script, then do not read this post or the comments. We are reading Bel Ami together and I want everyone to feel free to discuss openly. You should join us if you haven’t already! Go and catch up!!

This is my fault. I have clearly read way too much fan fiction and the way everyone was talking about this book, I thought all the sex would start right off the bat. Alas, I was wrong. ::sigh::

But that is okay. Because the book is not too bad. I like the build up of showing how down on his luck George Duroy is,

Was I the only one that pictured Duroy exactly like this, except with a mustache?!?

really a man at the bottom until he runs into his old friend and finds this whole other world. It’s almost like this little door is opened, and at this point, Duroy is just kinda peeking through. He has not turned into this guy that I know we can expect later on.

Right now, to me, Duroy is completely likable. Good looking, trying to make it, even sweet when it comes to handling the little girl, Laurine, at the dinner party. I totes had this picture of Rob holding a little girl and planting a little kiss on her forehead and I died! I have a thing for Daddy Rob, and I hope we get to see that in the movie, for sure.

I can’t figure out Madame Foriestier’s game, but inviting a man she barely knows, writing the article, smoking and wearing essentially a night gown? Hmmm… me thinks we may see something between her and Duroy as we read. In fact, I got kind of excited reading this chapter cause I really thought this was gonna be the beginning of it all, but it wasn’t. Just a big fat tease. Boo!

So far, I am having no issue picturing Rob in this role. With the few descriptions we’ve had so far of George, Rob does sound like a really good fit. Especially here in the beginning, when he seems very shy and self-depreciating. Many of the things he says, I can picture Rob’s face exactly. I’m not sure what the ‘stache is gonna look like, and as much as I hate to say it, if that part of the book goes away, I wouldn’t be angry. I hate mustaches. Like bunches. But it is not a deal breaker. No way. Not like jorts or man-pris.

And since a book club isn’t a club without some discussion, get on down to the comments and let me know what you think so far. P.S. If you have read ahead (I almost did, but wrote this first!), then don’t talk about future happenings. Let us experience them together all at the same time! :)

Super Special Note…

If you are as excited as me about the movie Bel Ami, then you need to be checking out Bel Ami Film. This is an unofficial, fan-run site for the movie, and these ladies are doing a kick ass job of staying on top of everything about the film. Follow them on Twitter for all the latest! The site is not a spoiler-free zone, but they do a pretty good job of giving fair warning on the tweets, so if you are like me and haven’t read the script, you should be okay!


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